The Advertiser, Tuesday 9th September 1930
Friday, 30 January 1970
Thursday, 22 January 1970
Wednesday, 21 January 1970
1921: Women's rugby match, Sydney, Sept 18
Western Argus (Kalgoorlie, WA), Tuesday 20 September 1921, p34
1921: Rugby League. The Ladies Match
More information in this article http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/FootballStudies/2001/FS0402e.pdf
Thursday, 1 January 1970
1912: Shall there be women footballers?
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA), Thursday 22nd February 1912
"Oh, horrible!" was Miss Rose Scott's first comment on the proposition made to the secretary of the Rugby League that women's football club might be formed (says the Sydney "Sun"). Miss Scott is president of the Ladies' Swimming Association of New South Wales, and believes that women should take some atheletic exercise. But not football. "It's too rough," she exclaiined.:"Too brutal! Girls have enough to do. They can play lawn tennis and croquet, and when they are very little they can play cricket. I played cricket when I was little. But, Football - ugh! It is horrible!" Only one in her life did Miss Scott see a football match, and she still cannot speak about it without a shudder. "If women were to play football with men looking on," she declare, "it would be worse than horrible. It would be disgusting! I don't even believe in men and women swimming together. I would not be president if it was permitted," Yet Miss Scott thinks that women need some healthy development. "Why not walking?" she said. "Walking is very good for girls. But football! Oh, no; no, NO! They musn't be made nmgo and horrible. It's nearly as bad as prizefighting. Do you know,I wouldn't be surprised if it is football that makes men rough and dreadful enough to go to prize fights. Such knocking down of one another." Then Miss Scott expounded the inwand principle of her views. "Men want to be made more gentle," she announced, "and in that way more like women. But women want to be more like men, being more free and honest and truthful. Most women are not truthful. They have been slaves, and slaves cannot be truthful. Proper freedom would make womnen less catty. Because, you know, women are catty." The president of the Swimming Association repeated this statement as though it were in danger of contradiction. "Women 'are' catty" she asserted once more, "and this can be cured; but not by football," she concluded. "Women playing football is a dreadful idea. That is trying to be toocmannish. It is so rough! So horrible!"
"Oh, horrible!" was Miss Rose Scott's first comment on the proposition made to the secretary of the Rugby League that women's football club might be formed (says the Sydney "Sun"). Miss Scott is president of the Ladies' Swimming Association of New South Wales, and believes that women should take some atheletic exercise. But not football. "It's too rough," she exclaiined.:"Too brutal! Girls have enough to do. They can play lawn tennis and croquet, and when they are very little they can play cricket. I played cricket when I was little. But, Football - ugh! It is horrible!" Only one in her life did Miss Scott see a football match, and she still cannot speak about it without a shudder. "If women were to play football with men looking on," she declare, "it would be worse than horrible. It would be disgusting! I don't even believe in men and women swimming together. I would not be president if it was permitted," Yet Miss Scott thinks that women need some healthy development. "Why not walking?" she said. "Walking is very good for girls. But football! Oh, no; no, NO! They musn't be made nmgo and horrible. It's nearly as bad as prizefighting. Do you know,I wouldn't be surprised if it is football that makes men rough and dreadful enough to go to prize fights. Such knocking down of one another." Then Miss Scott expounded the inwand principle of her views. "Men want to be made more gentle," she announced, "and in that way more like women. But women want to be more like men, being more free and honest and truthful. Most women are not truthful. They have been slaves, and slaves cannot be truthful. Proper freedom would make womnen less catty. Because, you know, women are catty." The president of the Swimming Association repeated this statement as though it were in danger of contradiction. "Women 'are' catty" she asserted once more, "and this can be cured; but not by football," she concluded. "Women playing football is a dreadful idea. That is trying to be toocmannish. It is so rough! So horrible!"
1891: Papers relating to 1891 women's rugby team
Correspondence and cuttings relating to a controversy which arose in 1891 over a proposed countrywide tour by a New Zealand women's rugby team (National Library of New Zealand).
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http://find.natlib.govt.nz/primo_library/libweb/action/display.do?ct=display&doc=nlnz_tapuhi1060738&indx=1&dum=true&dscnt=0&indx=1&vl(2003849UI0)=any&srt=rank&tab=default_tab&vl(2003848UI1)=all_items&ct=search&frbg=&vid=default&vl(1UI0)=contains&fn=search&dstmp=1280310155085&vl(freeText0)=women's%20rugby&mode=Basic&scp.scps=oogle.com/mail/?account_id=johnlbirch@gmail.com&shva=1#sent/12a0f501baeed9ad
1881: The lady football players at Stanley
This is a bit of a mystery. The "England" and "Scotland" teams played several games in 1881 (see http://www.donmouth.co.uk/womens_football/1881.html for details) but all other games were, from reports, clearly played to Association Football rules. However, a report on one game in the Liverpool Mercury of 27th June 1881 suggests that - for this game at least - the players may have been playing a version of rugby.
Note that points were not introduced into rugby until 1886. Until then rugby games were decided by "goals", which could be scored in open play (a "field goal", which was not abolished until 1905) or from a free kick - or "try" - at goal awarded after a touchdown behind their opponents' line. Only if goals were equal were the number of tries counted.
The description of this game does, taken in isolation, sound more like rugby than association football if it were not for the fact that the same teams tended to play "soccer" in their other games. Unfortunately after over 130 years it is impossible to know what they really were playing that afternoon.
The kit described matches some hitherto mysterious cigarette cards and other depictions of women "rugby players" from the period.
Note that points were not introduced into rugby until 1886. Until then rugby games were decided by "goals", which could be scored in open play (a "field goal", which was not abolished until 1905) or from a free kick - or "try" - at goal awarded after a touchdown behind their opponents' line. Only if goals were equal were the number of tries counted.
The description of this game does, taken in isolation, sound more like rugby than association football if it were not for the fact that the same teams tended to play "soccer" in their other games. Unfortunately after over 130 years it is impossible to know what they really were playing that afternoon.
The kit described matches some hitherto mysterious cigarette cards and other depictions of women "rugby players" from the period.
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